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+6miel Alex45720 Ekis Stephen marcel47 THIMARIE 10 participants |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Sam 20 Oct 2018, 12:10 | |
| Hi All, As promised, I am posting some pictures of my build to date :  Hello everyone, As promised, I publish some pictures of my building so far. 
Dernière édition par Stephen le Ven 26 Oct 2018, 09:12, édité 1 fois | |
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THIMARIE Enseigne de vaisseau de première classe


Localisation : Chelles (77) Navire préféré : Les bateaux de travail, mais pas que
 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Sam 20 Oct 2018, 13:07 | |
| Bonjour Stephen, superbement bien réalisé. Ca laisse présumer une belle suite. Amitiés, Thierry _________________ Le bonheur est né de l'altruisme et le malheur de l'égoïsme. Bouddha  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Dim 21 Oct 2018, 09:30 | |
| Thank you all for your kind comments. It's the first ship build I have ever attempted and am quite pleased with build so far myself.........however, I think I have probably completed the easiest part of the build with much more intricate work to follow!!
Merci à tous pour vos gentils commentaires. C'est la première construction de navire que j'ai jamais essayée et je suis assez satisfait de la construction jusqu'à présent moi-même ......... cependant, je pense avoir probablement terminé la partie la plus facile de la construction avec un travail beaucoup plus complexe à suivre! | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Lun 12 Nov 2018, 17:48 | |
| Bonjour, Est-ce que quelqu'un a une technique pour former les entretoises autour du caps de mouton et les autres entretoises s'il vous plaît? Je parviens à les former mais c'est un processus très lent.
Hi, Does anyone have a technique for forming the braces around the clump block and the other braces please? I am managing to form them but it is a very slow process. | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Lun 12 Nov 2018, 18:31 | |
| Thanks for your quick response Ekis. In your first picture, how did you manage to form the wire around the block so accurately?
Thank you for your quick reply Ekis. In your first photo, how did you manage to form the wire around the caps du mouton with such precision? | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Lun 12 Nov 2018, 19:58 | |
| Thanks again Elkis, I thought that's what I should be using but I don't have any and was trying to do it with ordinary pliers. I will buy some tomorrow.
Merci encore Elkis, je pensais que c'était ce que je devrais utiliser mais je n'en ai pas et j'essayais de le faire avec des pinces ordinaires. Je vais en acheter demain. | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Sam 19 Jan 2019, 18:32 | |
| Salut L'ancien, Merci pour vos conseils ... il y a beaucoup de bons conseils. Sincères amitiés, Stephen | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 10:39 | |
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marcel47 Quartier-maître de deuxième classe


Localisation : villeneuve sur-lot
 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 13:09 | |
| beau travaille _________________ Marcel :  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 13:37 | |
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 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 13:45 | |
| Cette Flore est vraiment montée très proprement ! Bravo ! Peut être que les caps de mouton des haubans auraient dû être tous au même niveau. Mais c'est un peu tard, et ça ne gène que très peu l'esthétique générale de ton bateau. Tu pourrais faire un gros plan du château arrière ? Comme j'ai reconstruis complètement le mien, je ne sais pas comment celui du kit a comme apparence.  _________________  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 14:12 | |
| Hi Elkis, thanks for your compliment. I accept your criticism regarding the shroud sheep caps............I found it quite difficult to keep them on the same level. However, I thought that in real life, maybe they wouldn't necessarily have been on the same level due to variation in the stretching of the ropes of that era when applying tension. That's my excuse anyway! Here follows a close up of the castle as requested. It doesn't in any way reach the standard of yours but I didn't have the time nor inclination to depart from the standard build  . | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 14:12 | |
| Hi Elkis, thanks for your compliment. I accept your criticism regarding the shroud sheep caps............I found it quite difficult to keep them on the same level. However, I thought that in real life, maybe they wouldn't necessarily have been on the same level due to variation in the stretching of the ropes of that era when applying tension. That's my excuse anyway! Here follows a close up of the castle as requested. It doesn't in any way reach the standard of yours but I didn't have the time nor inclination to depart from the standard build  . | |
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 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 15:30 | |
| Loin de moi l'envie de comparer ta Flore parce que j'en ai monté une ! Je ne fais jamais ça... Je faisais une remarque (et non une critique) sur les caps de mouton comme je l'aurais fait pour n'importe quel bateau. Encore une fois, cette Flore est vraiment bien faite, au maximum de ce que Constructo permet. Et merci pour la photo du château dont tu as pu faire quelque chose de bien. Far be it from me to compare your Flore because I've built one! I never do that... I was making a remark (and not a criticism) on the dead eyes as I would have done for any Vessel.
Once again, this Flore is really well made, to the maximum of what Constructo allows. And thank you for the photo of the castle you were able to make something good out of it._________________  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 15:38 | |
| Thanks Elkis.......I apologise and now realise it was only a remark and not necessarily a criticism. | |
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Alex45720 Maistrancier


Localisation : Proche de Gien
 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 15:52 | |
| This Flore is well executed but much remains to be done. You are on the good way. If you have any doubts in any situation, don't hesitate to ask questions. Ekis's Flore is a reference, you can explore in details its realization.  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 27 Mar 2020, 16:50 | |
| Thanks Alex........I also think that the most difficult part of the construction is yet to come. | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Sam 28 Mar 2020, 15:32 | |
| Hi, just a little help required please as it isn't clear to me from both the pictures in the manual or the drawings how the fairleads attach to the ship. Do they loop under the bowsprit as the sketch and supported by the overhead cables or are they attached to the bowsprit in another way?  Thanks in advance. | |
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 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Sam 28 Mar 2020, 15:57 | |
| No, you're right. They're just passing under the bowsprit for that frigate. They're stretched by the overhead cables. In fact, these fairleads just group all the ropes coming from the bowsprit, but they don't have any other role in tension.
The frigates of the 18th were simplified warships to be built and rigged quickly and in series. If we were on a 3-deck, the elements would be made and attached differently. _________________  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Sam 28 Mar 2020, 16:00 | |
| Thanks Ekis, your reply is much appreciated. | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Dim 29 Mar 2020, 14:59 | |
| H Ekis, on your 8 pages of posts.........La Flore-1:84-Constructo, I'm sure you had many pictures on there showing stage by stage construction of your model. Now there are only a few pictures on the whole 8 pages. Where have they gone to? | |
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 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Dim 29 Mar 2020, 15:05 | |
| There's been a problem on this thread. It was deleted and then recreated... You can see a lot of things in the Flickr folder at this address: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ekisg/albums/72157667379844787If you need details, of course I have additional photos I haven't posted. Don't hesitate to ask me, I'll look in my photo folder.  I will give you a link to download 3 pdf files of all the photos of the construction. As soon as the files are uploaded during the day. _________________  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Dim 29 Mar 2020, 15:22 | |
| Tanks for that, Ekis.I'll continue with the pics you have on Flickr and come back to you if I have further problems. | |
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 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Dim 29 Mar 2020, 17:45 | |
| There, the files were online: grosfichiers.com/RbmGCSgxRyW attention, more than 200Mo x3 _________________ 
Dernière édition par Ekis le Mar 21 Avr 2020, 00:46, édité 2 fois | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Dim 29 Mar 2020, 18:48 | |
| Thank you Elkis, you have provided more detail than I ever expected.........and I'm sure I'll find all the information I need within it. Your ship is beautiful with so much added detail....it is a piece of art! I also have admiration for your workshop and equipment you have......I can only work from a table within my house. I have a workshop outside but it isn't set up for model making. | |
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 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Dim 29 Mar 2020, 19:09 | |
| Thank you Stephen! But it was my very first wooden ship, and my first model since I was 14... There's a lot of pretty average stuff in here, I think. The main thing is, these pictures might help you! _________________  | |
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marcel47 Quartier-maître de deuxième classe


Localisation : villeneuve sur-lot
 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Dim 29 Mar 2020, 20:34 | |
| merci pour ce fichier tres utile _________________ Marcel :  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 03 Avr 2020, 09:17 | |
| My latest progress pictures follow. Sorting out the rigging is a slow process but I'm getting there, in the end,   thanks again to Ekis. | |
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miel Amiral


Localisation : BRIERE Navire préféré : LA COURONNE LE SUPERBE ORENOQUE LE RENARD LE PEREGRINE GALLEY LE KING DU MISSISSIPI LE HELDER FIRE-BOAT VEDETTE LANCE TORPILLE LE CYGNE LE REQUIN BATEAU-JOUET
 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 03 Avr 2020, 11:13 | |
| Démat Merci de rédiger vos message en français Beaucoup de membres ne parle pas la langue de la perfide Albion  _________________  | |
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marcel47 Quartier-maître de deuxième classe


Localisation : villeneuve sur-lot
 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 03 Avr 2020, 11:15 | |
| oui vous avais raison , a chaque fois il faut que je le passe en français _________________ Marcel :  | |
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Stephen Matelot

 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 03 Avr 2020, 11:21 | |
| Sorry, Marcel and Honey. I previously posted in English with a French translation but I was told that the members on here were more than capable of translating it themselves.I will post with a translation in future.
Désolé, Marcel et Honey. J'ai déjà posté en anglais avec une traduction en français mais on m'a dit que les membres ici étaient plus que capables de le traduire eux-mêmes. Je posterai avec une traduction à l'avenir. | |
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marcel47 Quartier-maître de deuxième classe


Localisation : villeneuve sur-lot
 | Sujet: Re: Frégate La Flore (Constructo 1/84°) de Stephen Ven 03 Avr 2020, 12:50 | |
| merci a vous _________________ Marcel :  | |
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